|Subscription Information and Help|
Go here and follow the instructions in the SUBSCRIBE section.
Use an email account that you check often.
Consider a dedicated account just for the list.
Don't use the mailname "lists" (for example, firstname.lastname@example.org). It triggers a bug in the list software.
Some major webmail providers don't always play nicely with discussion lists. Read more here.
Once I've approved your subscription, which usually takes between 8 and 36 hours, you'll receive a welcome message. If you don't, check your spam folder.
The welcome message will have a password. You'll need it to tweak your subscription (set/unset digest mode, suspend/resume mail, other fun stuff). You probably won't save it. No worries; you can get a password reminder at your Configuration Page.
On the next page, scroll down to the grey area and find Mail Delivery (first item). Click the radio button for Disabled. Scroll all the way to the bottom and click .
Restarting list mail:Follow the above instructions, but click the Enabled radio button instead of the Disabled radio button.
Setting Digest Mode:If you ask for digests instead of single messages, the listserver will treasure up messages for a while, and then send them to you bunched in a single message. Browse to your Configuration Page.
If you've lost your password (most people do), enter the email address you use for the list and leave the password blank. Scroll to the bottom of the page, and click . You'll get your password by email in a few minutes. Copy and paste it into the form and click .On the next page, scroll down to the grey area and find Set Digest Mode (second item). Click the radio button for Enabled or Disabled. Scroll all the way to the bottom and click . Warning #1: Digests can be large! If your email system tacks the message you're replying to onto the end of your new one (most do), by replying to a digest you can accidentally create a huge message. It may be so bloated that the listserver will refuse to distribute it. To prevent this, please delete everything that you're not replying to before you send your post. Warning #2: Digests have unhelpful subjects. When you reply, please change it to something relevant. This may be a good place to suggest that you read about netiquette.
Settings:You can adjust your subscription at your Configuration Page.
If you've lost your password, enter the email address you use for the list and leave the password blank. Scroll to the bottom of the page, and click . You'll get your password by email in a few minutes. Copy and paste it into the form and click .
After changing any of the settings below, scroll to the very bottom of the page and click , or nothing you've done will take effect.
Post in plain text. No html, please.
No binary attachments. Post photos and such on a website that doesn't require a login and send the list a link.
No spam. Personal ads for used and owned-never-installed EV items are fine, just don't overdo it.
Don't post anything you don't have legal rights to.
Stay on topic. Specifically:
No partisan politics or religion.
No hydrogen or fuel cells. The list voted on this decades ago.
No overunity devices, magnetic motors, free energy, perpetual motion machines, or other laws-of-physics violators.
No ICEVs or non-plug hybrids.
Don't post racist, xenophobic, homophobic, or sexist comments.
Don't promote crime, hatred, or violence.
Thou shalt not be too annoying. Thou shalt not be too easily annoyed.
Don't be a troll. You may find yourself chained under the nearest bridge.
Moderation: I like a free exchange of ideas, so this list is usually unmoderated. However, I also like civility. Flame wars drive off reasonable users.
I don't moderate people or threads because I disagree with them. However, when someone routinely ignores the list conventions, or when things get a little overheated, a light tap of the moderation truncheon is sometimes appropriate.
Moderation isn't censorship. That's something that desperate governments do. I'm not a government, and I hope I'm not too desperate. But you can call it that if you want.
Not convinced? No problem. It's a big internet out there. There's lots of room for more EV discussion lists and forums. If you don't like the EVDL's policies, try somewhere else, or start your own.
What to do when something goes wrong.
A: You're using an obsolete subscription address and instructions. That was two servers and at least 15 years ago, but the old address is still floating round the web. Go here and follow the instructions in the SUBSCRIBE section.
A: Possible causes and suggestions:
Is your post in the archive? If so, you probably just have a hyperactive spam filter. Whitelist the list address.
Make sure you're using the correct address for posting:
We share the listserver with other lists. It might be overworked. Give it a few hours.
Are you getting list mail from others? If not, the listserver might be down. If it's not back up in 24 hours, contact me.
Are you sure that you're really subscribed? If you can't log into your configuration page, you probably aren't. Try re-subscribing.
Are you sure you're sending from the email address that you subscribed with? Mail services have been known to change sending addresses behind your back. Quick fix: re-subscribe.
Maybe you accidentally turned off your Receive Your Own Posts option. Check your configuration page.
Maybe you put too many addresses in the TO or CC fields. Put in TO, and everything else in BCC.
Maybe you put the list posting address in the CC or BCC field. It only works in the TO field.
Your message is too long. Possible causes:
You replied to a digest but left the whole digest on the end of your message. Please don't do that.
You replied to a long thread and left all the previous posts on the end of yours. Please don't do that.
You pasted something long into your message. Please don't do that. Send a link instead.
You attached a binary file to your message. Please don't do that. Post it somewhere on the web that doesn't require a login, and send the list a link.
Your email system uses a weird format that our server doesn't understand. The symptom is getting a rejection notice that says something like "The message's content type was not explicitly allowed." To fix this, make sure that your mail system is sending plain ASCII text, no HTML, no rich text, no fancy formatting.
A: It's possible that nobody knows the answer. It happens. Or maybe you just need to be a little clearer.
Posteo: Recommended. Works with email clients. No ads. Privacy oriented. Libre-free but not beer-free; cost is 12€ per year. Servers are located in Germany, so they're covered by EU privacy regulations. Posteo uses renewable energy.
Microsoft mail services (Outlook, Hotmail, Live, MSN): These also mostly work, but they have an overstimulated spam filter.
A: Contact me. I'll fix it.
A: Your password was in your welcome message when you subscribed, which you probably didn't save. No worries; the listserver will send you a password reminder.
A: Make sure you're actually using your Configuration Page.
A: Your mail system has been bouncing list mail back to the listserver. It can't handle all the bounces, so it's stopped trying to send you mail.Three common reasons:
Getting support: To request help or report problems with the EVDL, please contact me at